tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-267384992493512731.post7532982531851446646..comments2021-12-20T13:26:44.033-08:00Comments on O Evil Planet: 1249.Glen David Goldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02857424842999602848noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-267384992493512731.post-52446128841926277142007-10-18T07:11:00.000-07:002007-10-18T07:11:00.000-07:00Not so much. We did learn a bit about the artist ...Not so much. We did learn a bit about the artist as manipulator. Then one day, years later, you're looking at Magritte's "Ceci n'est pas une pipe", and it hits you like one of Ignatz's bricks: all we do is manipulate. We manipulate the pigment-to-medium ratio, where the pigment goes on the canvas, what types of imagery brings a viewer in/pushes a viewer out. We manipulate. The trick is, as Guston points out, keeping the manipulation honest.Rob Stolzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03468042054866483300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-267384992493512731.post-6507536248353949152007-10-17T21:54:00.000-07:002007-10-17T21:54:00.000-07:00And you build a third mind: how they influence eac...And you build a third mind: how they influence each other. The issue is POV and not violating it so much that the reader goes WTF. That would be the POVWTF conundrum. They teach you that in writing school. You learn that in painting school?Glen David Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02857424842999602848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-267384992493512731.post-20622710543532444782007-10-17T07:14:00.000-07:002007-10-17T07:14:00.000-07:00Depends upon the painter, I guess. A visual bait...Depends upon the painter, I guess. A visual bait and switch might work: Draw the viewer in with a seductive component of the work--something painted in either a gorgeous style, or just plain beautiful to look at--only to lead them to the true target. The composition would be key, to pull their eyes away from the visual siren. John Currin has the ability to do this, but in the end, doesn't have much to say, so you're left hanging at the seduction. Your bags are all packed, but you wind up having no place to go. <BR/><BR/>What I like so much about the goldfish/piranha scenario is that you can delve into the minds of both characters, revealing simple/complex desires and motives.Rob Stolzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03468042054866483300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-267384992493512731.post-27464510806019480142007-10-16T15:48:00.000-07:002007-10-16T15:48:00.000-07:00Frighteningly perceptive, Rob. How would a painte...Frighteningly perceptive, Rob. How would a painter do it?Glen David Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02857424842999602848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-267384992493512731.post-88839422157383184902007-10-16T06:23:00.000-07:002007-10-16T06:23:00.000-07:00This reminds me of those collectors who manipulate...This reminds me of those collectors who manipulate things and people...Rob Stolzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03468042054866483300noreply@blogger.com